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Old 12-16-2007, 08:29 AM
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Purani Jeans made Ali Haider a household name. What made you want to remix your own song almost a decade later?

The new Purani Jeans is a hard-rock version of the hit song. It’s way more energetic than the original. I like to keep changing my songs according to the present generation’s tastes. In other words, I update my songs every eight to 10 years. What makes the new Purani Jeans more interesting is the fact that I’ve also shot the video in the same place where the original song was shot.

So you are obviously pro-remixes?

If the melody of the song remains intact, I don’t see anything wrong with remixes. Gaane ka alam, sur aur taal rehna chahiye. Remixes, in fact, often revive classics, gaana phir zinda ho jata hai.

Music in Pakistan versus music in India?

In Pakistan, pop music is more popular, whereas in India, film music still rules the charts. But now, audiences in India are opening up to the changing scene of pop music, and Pakistani pop is increasingly becoming popular, primarily because of its distinctive sound. Each artiste has an alag style within the pop genre. Right from Junoon to Strings, Pakistani musicians have a huge fan following in India. But Bollywood songs are a hit in Pakistan, too.

“In Pakistan, pop music is more popular, whereas in India, film music still rules the charts. But now, audiences in India are opening up to the changing scene of pop music, and Pakistani pop is increasingly becoming popular, primarily because of its distinctive sound.”

Was acting in films a deliberate move? What is your debut film Osama about?

It wasn’t a planned move at all, and it’s not a change of career either. I was offered the role and only took it up because it’s a great script and a unique role. And most importantly, it’s a film with a nice message. The film is about the different perceptions people have when they hear the name Osama. I feel I can contribute something to society through this film, hence I agreed to play the main lead.

If Bollywood beckons again, will you listen?

Only if it’s an unusual script, like Osama.

You’re also a TV star in Pakistan. Any plans to join the buzzing TV industry in Mumbai?

I am a TV actor, but I don’t do soap operas. I act in tele-films. TV is extremely time-consuming, and my priority is making music, both for my albums as well as for tele-films, so I never thought of taking up small-screen acting in a more serious manner.

You recently released your 15th album. Over the years, how have you evolved as a musician?

When I started my music career at the age of 18, I was a teeny-bopper musician. My melodies and lyrics were youthful. With time, and maturity, I have changed my sound. My music has definitely evolved, after all, I’ve been here almost 18 years now! But my thoughts and music style was always ahead of its time. — Dawn/Times of India news service

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Old 12-20-2007, 08:24 AM
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please don't support this bullshit!!!!
that's song's a fucking total ripoff of the thing we did in 2006!!! this fuck even asked us for the song so he could sing on it and now it was "his" idea!!!

there's lots of drum fills that are totally stolen as well as rhythm and backing vocal ideas that were ours too!

I'm not asking you to NOT support him, but its bullshit that people get away with crap like this! Give credit where credit is due!!!!
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:28 AM
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:44 PM
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what did he copy from you guys :S explain
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Whatever the case............ ali haider's music sucks......always has ans always will!!!
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:56 AM
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Fact: Ali Haider did not write the song Purani Jeans...he paid a poor Christian song-write (who currently resides in Chicago) a pittance for the song and that's his claim to fame back in the day and to this day!

Fact: (And you can quote me on this) I personally met with Ali Haider's Manager from 12am to 6 am when he was accompanying Sajjad Ali on his Toronto date and had him listen to Zzen's rendition of Purani Jeans. After hearing that CD (and taking it with him) he played it back to Ali, who immediately asked us for the music so he could record his vocals on that. After some communication problems and failure to negotiate terms, things apparently "fell through" only to have this "new ROCKISH" version out!!!

No offense to the guy personally, but history has shown that this guy doesn't really do much himself other than steal ideas and promote them as his own.

If he was less adamant as trying to write off the idea as his own, that would have been fine. Except for the fact that due credit is not being given where its deserved!

I know a lot of you Ali Haider supporters will come to his aid and say he didn't/doesn't do shit like this...but I'm sitting here first hand telling you that this idea was mine and it was stolen from me and my band!

We're not in the business of taking names, but sometimes the bullshit has to stop!!!!

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http://www.everythingzzen.ca

check our our version of Purani Jeans released last year and recorded in March 2006! The idea was played to Ali Haider's manager in August/September 2006 and surprisingly, shortly after...he puts out a new album with a "rocked up" version of the song!
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I must say, I am shocked! with ali haider, infact i liked the rocked up version of the song.

Btw you guys did a great job with the version, thumbs up
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Sigh..thanks man.
Sucks that we get shit on for remaking a song like Yeh Zindagi and then someone rips off a fucking remake!
Oh well, this is how the ball bounces in the "Scene"
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Sigh..thanks man.
Sucks that we get shit on for remaking a song like Yeh Zindagi and then someone rips off a fucking remake!
Oh well, this is how the ball bounces in the "Scene"
yea man its really pathetic! hope you guys bounce back from this and be successful with zzen
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thanks for the great post....
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I think we need to petition to the guy that wrote the article to actually delve further into details as to why the guy lied in the first place.
Or better yet, put him face to face with me and the other 2 people who were at the meeting with his manager and we'll discuss it with him..on camera!!!
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you know what, I know ali haiders manager, I will ask him about this and tell you what he said (in PM)
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wait a minute LoathingRocker
use copied Ali Haider's song purni jeans made a remix of that song then Ali Haider took your remix for his Album
i think its pretty fair
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how is it fair if he claims it was his idea and that bullshit about him "redoing his songs for the times"?
I'm not saying don't support this guy...you can love him all you want. I'm just asking for due credit for sparking the idea for the fucker to do this version...also...there's sections in that song blatantly stolen from our song without zero..and I mean ZERO reference to us.
When we recorded the song, we never claim it's ours. We made sure to mention it was a beloved Paki classic that we revamped..only to have the original artist claim one year later that it was his idea!
I mean...c'mon! I even pointed out the details of this meeting with his manager Amir Rizvi.
Anyways, once again...I'm not asking you to boycott the album or stop supporting the person who's music you're a fan of..but right now, you need to understand this...the idea of the remake (infact the remake itself) was taken from our idea and we were not given the credit we deserve.
Simple as that!
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