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Talking about legel things and himself downloading a pirated copy from net.... ha ha ha ha

and secondly who said dulha Mil Gaya is a big film.... no one even bothered to watch this movie.... "3 Idiots" is what we call a big movie which is better then the hollywood level... and the feelgood factor is just amazing....
There's something called youtube, you dumbindianass! What century you living in, seriously?


@ OP - heard both songs just now and indian version is definitely copied.
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watch it dude ...u just changed the dogs staus to par human ! ....fakhr-e-alam is gettin a lot of publicity because of this ..perhaps the biggest publicity he ever got ..i appreciate paki music being great and being an integral part of india ...but then again india has got oodles of talent ..ar rahman for instance ..raeth , nauman javaid and amanat ali made it big in india ..and irrespective of wether u accept it or not our industry gives higher platform to many paki singers which bfor u pounce on me they definitely deserve

ps-no wars brother ..we both countries r talented but every1 loves his country!
So if Hollywood steals AR Rehman's music, you'd be happy about it just because he's getting more "publicity" ?

not everyone has that slave mentality, you know?
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So if Hollywood steals AR Rehman's music, you'd be happy about it just because he's getting more "publicity" ?

not everyone has that slave mentality, you know?

hahaha!!..okay i accept this time i frgt to write the most important thing ..no i m definitely against this copying stuff . i was bzy pointing out ther mistakes so i frgt the basic thread

yes i agree tht the maker's of dulha mil gaya shud be sued ....tips ppl were sued for zara zara touch me and had to pay a whopping sum of money ...irrespective of wether the song is hit or flop ...i hate indians who copy ..and we need to set them rite !!...our own talent is amazing!
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its really crazy that people in pakistan don't even know their own pop stars well they have to be good to be known but he surely was... and about the copy issue Indians copy a lot not only pakistani but also from hollywood and american tv shows there is not much we can do about it
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Guys instead of thinking "Oh those Indians copied our song!"..think that our song was so good that they actually decided to copy it! They thought it would sell out, right? It was from a Pakistani singer, right? Of course it would have leaked out one way or another. The bright side is that many people who forgot Fakhr-e-Alam would actually remember him now.

Banda copy ussi say karta hai jiska music acha lagay. You should be proud that our songs are worthy of copying. People do figure out which song was copied in the end..and they do listen to the original copy to compare or whatnot.
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and in the end people look at it as an Indian song. DO you seriously think internationally, or people in india or even the majority of pakistan really knows who its written by? hum bhanahay, woh kamahay... are you seriously sticking up for this?
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and in the end people look at it as an Indian song. DO you seriously think internationally, or people in india or even the majority of pakistan really knows who its written by? hum bhanahay, woh kamahay... are you seriously sticking up for this?
No, I don't think so. Many people here even asked who Fakhar-e-alam is. I am not giving India an excuse to copy songs..no no! I am saying that once its copied, what can we do? We aren't the only ones that are being copied and also they aren't the only ones who copy. Everyone copies from Hollywood. Now Hollywood can't go on checking every thing.

I am not saying that Fakhar shouldn't sue them or anything. I agree with his point that they should have at least gave him some credit for it or asked permission. But we can't do anything about it.

As far as "hum banaye aur woh kamaye" point is concerned, Hollywood makes some good movies and Bollywood copies it. Heck even some TV shows are copied and Pakistan would copy it too. They all want to earn some money off of it, right? But what can Hollywood do? At the most, it can sue people and then everyone will go back on copying. There is no one solution for it.

Fakhar-e-Alam's song is generic and rest of its versions are variations. Just like in a medicine/drug. There is one generic formula and then the variations come in but some people don't forget the original brand/name or whatnot. Like now, since many people know about Fakhar's song, they won't forget it easily..at least I wont.
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No, I don't think so. Many people here even asked who Fakhar-e-alam is. I am not giving India an excuse to copy songs..no no! I am saying that once its copied, what can we do? We aren't the only ones that are being copied and also they aren't the only ones who copy. Everyone copies from Hollywood. Now Hollywood can't go on checking every thing.

I am not saying that Fakhar shouldn't sue them or anything. I agree with his point that they should have at least gave him some credit for it or asked permission. But we can't do anything about it.

As far as "hum banaye aur woh kamaye" point is concerned, Hollywood makes some good movies and Bollywood copies it. Heck even some TV shows are copied and Pakistan would copy it too. They all want to earn some money off of it, right? But what can Hollywood do? At the most, it can sue people and then everyone will go back on copying. There is no one solution for it.

Fakhar-e-Alam's song is generic and rest of its versions are variations. Just like in a medicine/drug. There is one generic formula and then the variations come in but some people don't forget the original brand/name or whatnot. Like now, since many people know about Fakhar's song, they won't forget it easily..at least I wont.
The problem has more to do with that! Every other song gets copied and i certainly don't take it lightly as you do! Its the image at stake, its our dignity, its beyond music ( whch in itself is a pretty henious, disgusting act ) ... Yes we can sue ... we have to sue and yes this problem can be solved... if problems like terrorism and drug trafficking can be conquered then certainly this can be too. Its not copying its stealing and its just as bad as robbing a bank, only you are stealing the carefully compiled ideas and feelings of an artist, a philosopher... In the end no matter how many positives you bring out of this situation, the negatives will easily overwhelm them!
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The problem has more to do with that! Every other song gets copied and i certainly don't take it lightly as you do! Its the image at stake, its our dignity, its beyond music ( whch in itself is a pretty henious, disgusting act ) ... Yes we can sue ... we have to sue and yes this problem can be solved... if problems like terrorism and drug trafficking can be conquered then certainly this can be too. Its not copying its stealing and its just as bad as robbing a bank, only you are stealing the carefully compiled ideas and feelings of an artist, a philosopher... In the end no matter how many positives you bring out of this situation, the negatives will easily overwhelm them!
I am certainly not bringing out the positives more than the negatives. You know how many patents, trademarks are indirectly copied each day?! There is a difference though..there is strict regulation for that. In media, you can't do that since Bollywood "changes" the copied song. There is no direct copying..yes the tune matches in this matter but they changed the lyrics. They reformed it thus they can get away with it. There is no final solution in this particular matter. And no I am not taking it lightly..I am only thinking about it rationally. I understand your sentiments regarding it..I have the same sentiments but bickering about it and cursing them won't help. Yes, you can sue them but will that STOP this activity altogether? They make tons of money off of one song..they would be willing to pay the charges instead of halting this activity altogether because that would cut off their earnings. Think reasonably..


And if you deem stealing a very important notion in terms of our dignity then ban those fashion shows, ban western clothes, ban any channels that copy other media's presentations because believe it or not, we are "stealing" (as you call it) as well. The reason I refrain from condemning others in any matter that can relate to me or my country is because I don't want to hear "You do that too!"
We aren't the only ones who are victims of this activity. Hollywood is being copied too and they do sue whenever they have a chance but they don't dwell on it and wage a war. Check out the two songs below, for example:






(I remember this one because I used to listen to One Love by Blue)


As far as our image and dignity is concerned, there are many more important factors which are tarnishing our image and dignity, we should cater to them first. Anyhow, that's my point and you don't have to agree with it.
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Indian films are like a circus totally non sensical and their music composers are the biggest chors on planet.
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The end is Bollywood is crap. Hollywood is the best.

Bollywood songs are crp...our paki artists ROCK.
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a little strange tht if bollywood is crap ...you are immediately calling a lot of paki ppl crap (rfak,atif..)..cuz they are an integral part of the industry ...i agree sum of it is total bullshit but india has got oodles of talent ..whether you lik to admit or not ..i dont care cuz thts the absurdest thing i herd...i mean rahman just won grammy !!..and btw ali zafar is also acting in a bollywood movie ...thtz crap too ??..cuz i was thinking otherwise ..

other thing tht "chori" part ...i agree kuch kaminey ullu indians are chors by birth ....cant help it yaar ..every country 's got its share of scum...fortunately likes of talented ppl lik aamir khan ashutosh gowarikar rahman s.e.l salim merchant etc are amzing!!

and because sum idiots are goin to "quote" me and throw adjectives at me ...i firmly believe that pakistan rocks!!..and it rocks big time!!..and the best outcome today is that i know tht my neighbour has an awesome sound to it !!

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I am certainly not bringing out the positives more than the negatives. You know how many patents, trademarks are indirectly copied each day?! There is a difference though..there is strict regulation for that. In media, you can't do that since Bollywood "changes" the copied song. There is no direct copying..yes the tune matches in this matter but they changed the lyrics. They reformed it thus they can get away with it. There is no final solution in this particular matter. And no I am not taking it lightly..I am only thinking about it rationally. I understand your sentiments regarding it..I have the same sentiments but bickering about it and cursing them won't help. Yes, you can sue them but will that STOP this activity altogether? They make tons of money off of one song..they would be willing to pay the charges instead of halting this activity altogether because that would cut off their earnings. Think reasonably..


And if you deem stealing a very important notion in terms of our dignity then ban those fashion shows, ban western clothes, ban any channels that copy other media's presentations because believe it or not, we are "stealing" (as you call it) as well. The reason I refrain from condemning others in any matter that can relate to me or my country is because I don't want to hear "You do that too!"
We aren't the only ones who are victims of this activity. Hollywood is being copied too and they do sue whenever they have a chance but they don't dwell on it and wage a war. Check out the two songs below, for example:






(I remember this one because I used to listen to One Love by Blue)


As far as our image and dignity is concerned, there are many more important factors which are tarnishing our image and dignity, we should cater to them first. Anyhow, that's my point and you don't have to agree with it.

hahah!!!...i agree 1000000% wid you .....

it just so happens tht this track blue was copyrighted by us this time ..shan sang it ..and it features the actual english singers as well !!
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