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Old 11-30-2005, 10:08 PM
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Times of India on Tendulkars flaws and weaknesses

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This could come as a slap in Tendulkars fans face.

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Click on Sachin should retire from ODIs. or go to
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The below are some key points that should come as a slap in Tendulkars fans face.

1)Lara is the unapologetic Prince, he makes no excuses for being selfish and loves a challenge. He knows he is supremely talented which when put to good use has the ability to destroy anything in it's wake.Lara was never a team player and he makes no bones about it. He is comfortable with the role of chief-destroyer for West Indies. Sachin on the hand has found himself stuck in the middle. He too likes a challenge like Lara but loves to gloat over the team coming first always however he never delivers when the heat is on. Sachin is very much the reluctant king who struggles with himself and the expectations bestowed on him by one billion fans. Unlike Bradman who was the flag bearer of hope and fulfilment during the desperate days of the depression which hit the world in the 30's, Sachin is weighted down by expectations at the best of times.(Reuters Photo)

2)Sachin's critics have pointed to a temperamental flaw in the great batsman. Agreed no one is perfect even the great Don was not a 100 percent but with Sachin the cloud of "underperformance" hangs nervously over his head. His record in finals of tournament is abysmal. A few months ago the champion batsman had angrily said," people's definition of crucial matches can always vary. Agreed, I made only four in the World Cup final, but was that the only key match of the competition? Wasn’t the match against Zimbabwe crucial? Or the match against England? Or against Pakistan? Or the semi-final against Kenya? They were all important matches that helped us get through to the final, didn't they?" If Sachin believes the path to the final is the biggest journey and not the occasion itself then his greatness itself is in doubt. He hasn't scored a single century in the finals of tournament in the last five years

3)Lara on the other hand has played just 259 ODIs scoring 9,359 at average of 41 with 19 centuries and 57 half-centuries. The West Indian batsman has rightly shifted his focus to the real thing - Tests and that is where he expects to leave a lasting impression. Sachin on the other hand is struggling to define his role in Team India.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:12 AM
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strongly disagree with the assesment. tempermental flaw?? cmmon who are u kidding he has the best temperment in current lot of internatinal cricketers.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by vijayone1
strongly disagree with the assesment. tempermental flaw?? cmmon who are u kidding he has the best temperment in current lot of internatinal cricketers.
Is that y he is flopping in all crunch finals and matches under pressure?Is that y he is taking 10 innings to score 1 or 2 fifties these days?Ur in denial buddy.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:16 AM
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Is that y he is flopping in all crunch finals and matches under pressure?Is that y he is taking 10 innings to score 1 or 2 fifties these days?Ur in denial buddy.
temperment has nothing to do with scores dude.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vijayone1
temperment has nothing to do with scores dude.
O so what has it to do with,starting a restaurant or not paying taxes for his ferrari?If it doesnt matter then dont talk about it as his strong point,even a novie fan would realise that u got to have good temperament to prevail under pressure situations.Sachin panics and flops under pressure and u know that.Scores prove that,does that has anything to do with or no?
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by waqar31
O so what has it to do with,starting a restaurant or not paying taxes for his ferrari?If it doesnt matter then dont talk about it as his strong point,even a novie fan would realise that u got to have good temperament to prevail under pressure situations.Sachin panics and flops under pressure and u know that.Scores prove that,does that has anything to do with or no?
You don't know much about cricket do you. Do you know how much pressure their is just to be playing against the world greatest bowlers? Sachin is also an opener so he has score runs quickly. you really think a person can score 20,000+ runs in internatonal cricket if he can't handle pressure? Just try imagine how much concentration and mental tuffness somebody has to have in order to put up those numbers.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ace58
You don't know much about cricket do you. Do you know how much pressure their is just to be playing against the world greatest bowlers? Sachin is also an opener so he has score runs quickly. you really think a person can score 20,000+ runs in internatonal cricket if he can't handle pressure? Just try imagine how much concentration and mental tuffness somebody has to have in order to put up those numbers.
O so TImes oF India also doesnt know about cricket,how much cricket do u know?U cant tell i dont know cricket just beause i question Sachin,statistics has proved he has flopped when mattered
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by waqar31
O so what has it to do with,starting a restaurant or not paying taxes for his ferrari?If it doesnt matter then dont talk about it as his strong point,even a novie fan would realise that u got to have good temperament to prevail under pressure situations.Sachin panics and flops under pressure and u know that.Scores prove that,does that has anything to do with or no?
Lets not talk about his personal life. Panic ? Choked ? who are u talking abt Sachin or bowlers facing sachin?

Sachin is not a perfect batsman. But he is nearest thing to perfect batsman in this world. you may have ur opinions. but for me He is the best batsman in the world ( yeah after DON).
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:06 AM
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umm, does anyone remember how tendulkar spanked the pakistani pace attack of waqar,wasim and shoaib in the 2003 world cup while chasing a mammoth total of 270+?
whoever wrote that article is clearly biased towards brian lara and cannot accept the fact that tendulkar is right up there with brian lara as one of the best batsmen in the world. oh and i had a laugh reading "Click on Sachin should retire from ODIs". that was a priceless joke. The man who has 13000+ runs in ODI should retire and just based on a string of poor performances, the person says he should quit. what great reasoning. Probably Inzimam should have quit cricket altogether after the 2003 world cup, right? Its a matter of time when Tendulkar will hit another century, climb up the rankings, and ppl will be singing his praises once again. You know why, cause that is what great players do. They always comeback into form, so yeah..ill stop now.
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf
umm, does anyone remember how tendulkar spanked the pakistani pace attack of waqar,wasim and shoaib in the 2003 world cup while chasing a mammoth total of 270+?
whoever wrote that article is clearly biased towards brian lara and cannot accept the fact that tendulkar is right up there with brian lara as one of the best batsmen in the world. oh and i had a laugh reading "Click on Sachin should retire from ODIs". that was a priceless joke. The man who has 13000+ runs in ODI should retire and just based on a string of poor performances, the person says he should quit. what great reasoning. Probably Inzimam should have quit cricket altogether after the 2003 world cup, right? Its a matter of time when Tendulkar will hit another century, climb up the rankings, and ppl will be singing his praises once again. You know why, cause that is what great players do. They always comeback into form, so yeah..ill stop now.

Wasim and Waqar were well past their prime and Wasim actually had a catch dropped of his bowling when Sachin was on 30,it was just his day and it clicked on a perfect batting pitch,ever remember he panicking and getting out 12 runs away from win and crying for hrs(chennai test 1999) and later flopped the rest of 2 matches against Pak that series.So Times of India which is a very popular magazine knows less than u do?Well urs is ajoke.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by waqar31
Wasim and Waqar were well past their prime and Wasim actually had a catch dropped of his bowling when Sachin was on 30,it was just his day and it clicked on a perfect batting pitch,ever remember he panicking and getting out 12 runs away from win and crying for hrs(chennai test 1999) and later flopped the rest of 2 matches against Pak that series.So Times of India which is a very popular magazine knows less than u do?Well urs is ajoke.

Waqar, dont quote those foolish statistic or those idiotic comments made by Times by India. You make a fool out of yourself by agreeing to those statements. First of all, those statistics you said are based on his form for the past few years. if you want to analyze a cricketer, especially a batsmen you must analyze his whole career. You dont ONLY judge a player when he hits his prime. Secondly, Sachin was one of the best batsmen and averaged the most for couple of years before he hit his slump. As we all know, Indians made him there GOD when he was playing great, they worshiped him now when he is in a slump they make foolish comments towards him. Look at his whole career , from his first match to his last. There was a time when everyone said , if sachin fails , india fails. He is the greatest batsmen ever India has produced, make no mistake about that. the world cup match when he kicked our Pakistani bowlers asses..when you said he was droped on 30, well great players take advantages, just like Sachin did. Even Inzi has a few let off before he makes a century. So plz dont quote those foolish comments again.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:07 PM
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first of all, stop getting so mad at each other.
sachin is undeniably the best batsmen statistically since he made his debut. the indian times article said that lara has more runs in less tests, but did they mention innings? sachin has played waaayyy less innings than lara since the west indies suck and lara bats in the second innings while india often doesnt and so sachin misses out. now if u want to talk about who bats well under pressure, u cannot say lara b/c sachin has performed against pakistan. pakistan vs india is just about as much pressure as possible. the author was bias in support of lara. i personally enjoy watchin lara more because he can destroy the opposition like none other.
u can argue about those 2 all u want, but overall, the man is our own aloo, inzi.
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ok yeh i agree with s.muhumadz or whoever it is yeh stop goign crazy and hes a batsmen who has talent and yeh every batsmen have there bad day or 2 so no point arguing
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do you even know what happened in the chennai test? tendulkar had a serious back pain due to the long innings he played. he was the lone man tryin to take india to the test win. Of course, when you are in physical agitation, you try to minimize running by hitting boundaries, and thats what tendulkar did, he had no option. what a bad example you just gave, just because he didnt win it for india, doesnt mean he cant bat under pressure. he scored a century for God's sake. I guess inzimam's century in the first ODI against india last year, where pakistan lost chasing 349 was also " crumbling under pressure". what faulty logic you have.
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do you even know what happened in the chennai test? tendulkar had a serious back pain due to the long innings he played. he was the lone man tryin to take india to the test win. Of course, when you are in physical agitation, you try to minimize running by hitting boundaries, and thats what tendulkar did, he had no option. what a bad example you just gave, just because he didnt win it for india, doesnt mean he cant bat under pressure. he scored a century for God's sake. I guess inzimam's century in the first ODI against india last year, where pakistan lost chasing 349 was also " crumbling under pressure". what faulty logic you have.
kkkk calm down everyone fine tendulker is a great batsmen so are wasim and loadz more in there own status ok now plz stop arguing people its just that everyone has different opinions plz have respect for it
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