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Mahendra Singh Dhoni without any Doubt... 11 45.83%
NO i think Kevin Pietersen is better... 13 54.17%
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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Cool Who is better ??? Kevin Pietersen Vs. Mahendra Singh Dhoni

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What do you think ??? Who's better in these two of the Best captains of the world at the present... One is Captain of the country from where Cricket started - ENGLAND and one is captain of the country where Cricket is regarded as a religion and has over 1 billion Cricket Freaks - India... Tough one... Read more to know..







This is the story of two men exemplify the advancement and fruition of the sport. They are two courageous characters who do not hesitate to innovate. Most importantly, they are two fearless souls who seized the opportunity when it was bestowed to them. Kevin Pietersen, captain of England and Mahendra Singh Dhoni, captain of India are virtuous icons of contemporary cricket.


Genuine match-winners
When India win...
MS Dhoni
ODIs: 65 | Runs: 2394 | Ave: 77 | 100: 4

When England win...
Kevin Pietersen
ODIs: 34 | Runs: 1246 | Ave: 73 | 100: 2


They are two men who never doubted that they would play for their respective countries. They have immense self-belief and most importantly, have the ability to inspire others. They rose from humble backgrounds and difficult beginnings. Both men took charge of their respective teams at a time of crisis. Now, they are out on a mission to be number 1.
Their styles are unique yet fashionable. They relentlessly question the establishment and put together their own set of laws. In exactly four years time, they have changed the fortunes of their teams. They embark up on a new journey – one of being in charge.
The purpose of innovation is to make a positive change, to make someone or something better. Pietersen and Dhoni have had to deal with ‘old school of thoughts’ coupled with generations of myths. Could anyone in the 80s or 90s have imagined that a young boy from Jharkhad would come and transform cricket in India? Or would anyone have given the slightest of chance to a South African-born to lead the doggedness of England?
They have been conferred with captaincy because their respective countries didn’t have any other choices. They were entrusted because they have displayed strength of character. The next five or ten years in world cricket is going to be quite absorbing as KP and MSD add new chapters to their new-born legacy… Cheers.


The likeness….


On the international scene…
KP’s arrival – November 28, 2004
MSD’s arrival – December 23, 2004

Both average 47 with the bat in ODI cricket.

It’s almost telepathy. Two young players started on their journey at the same time and took up a pledge – one to change the way the sport was being played for centuries. They knew that ‘originality’ could flop but it was good spirits and urge that reaped them fruits.
They went about scoring brisk fifties and hundreds and it was just a matter of time before people stood up and took notice. There were, however, purists who weren’t convinced. However, their tremendously strong personas never got perturbed by criticism.



Mahendra Singh Dhoni - RISE TO THE TOP


August 2004 - Shines for India 'A' against Pakistan 'A' and is named Man of the Series
December 2004 - Is named in India's ODI squad for the tour of Bangladesh. Dinesh Karthik was picked as keeper for Tests.
December 23, 2004 - Makes ODI debut. Is run-out for a duck
April 5, 2005 - Smashes 148 runs off just 123 balls against archrivals Pakistan. Announces his arrival with this knock. - Videos
October 31, 2005 - Annihaltes the Sri Lankan bowling attack at Jaipur. Scores 183 runs off just 145 balls - a world-record for a wicketkeeper. Is named Man of the Series as India thrash Lanka 6-1.
December 2, 2005 - After one year in the waiting, finally makes his Test debut. Scores only 30.
January 24, 2006 - Smashes his maiden Test century - once again against Pakistan. He scored 148 runs off just 153. Match is drawn.
February 2006 - Helps India thrash Pakistan 4-1 in the five-match ODI series. Scores three back-to- back half-centuries during the period when India registered 17 world-reocord run-chases.
April 20, 2006 - With an average over 52 after 42 ODIs, becomes No. 1 batsman in the ICC ODI rankings.
July 23, 2007 - Helps India save the Lord's Test on the final day. At 145-5 the visitors were staring at defeat but Dhoni's unbeaten knock of 76 helps them draw the Test.
August 7, 2007 - Is named India's captain for the ICC World Twenty20 tournament.
September 18, 2007 - Is named India's ODI captain after Rahul Dravid resigns.
September 24, 2007 - Leads India to triump in the ICC World Twenty20. Is lauded for his leadership skills.
March 2008 - Helps India beat Australia in Australia in the CB Series 2007-08. Became the first Indian captain to achieve the feat.
April 13, 2008 - Is stand-in Test captain against South Africa at Kanpur. India win inside 3 days.
October 21, 2008 - Captains India achieve biggest-ever Test victory at Mohali against Australia.
November 6, 2008 - Takes oath as regular Test captain after Anil Kumble's retirement.
November 10, 2008 - Lifts the Border-Gavaskar Trophy as India beat Australia 2-0 at Nagpur.



Kevin Pietersen - RISE TO THE TOP


December 3, 1999 - Scores 61 for KwaZulu-Natal against the visiting English side at Durban. Opposition captian Nasser Hussain takes notice. Asks KP to join Essex.
October 2000 - Nottinghamshire sign Kevin Pietersen on a three-year contract
October 2004 - He completes the four-year qualification period and is available for England selection
November 28, 2004 - Makes his one-day debut against Zimbabwe in Harare. Scores 27 not out
February 2, 2005 - Scores maiden ODI hundred against South Africa at Bloemfontein, the first of three centuries in the series.
July 14, 2005 - Pietersen is named in England's Ashes squad as Graham Thorpe calls it quits.
July 21, 2005 - He makes his Test debut against Australia at Lord’s. Top-scores for England in both innings with 57 and 64 not out
September 12, 2005 - He scores his first Test century in the fifth Ashes Test at The Oval. His 158 plays a crucial role in England saving the Test and winning the Ashes after 16 years
October 2005 - Pietersen is named the ICC Emerging Player of the Year and the One-Day Player of the Year
December 2005 - Pietersen is awarded the MBE
June 15, 2008 - Smashes 110 runs against New Zealand after hitting two sixes off the swtich-hit shot at Chester-le-Street. Creates a huge controversy.
June 28, 2008 - Captains England for the first-ever time during the the fifth ODI against New Zealand at Lord’s after Paul Collingwood is banned for slow over-rate.
August 4, 2008 - He is named England’s Test and one-day captain after Michael Vaughan resigned following England’s Test-series defeat against South Africa. Collingwood also quits as one-day captain
August 7, 2008 - Leads England in Test match for the first-ever time against South Africa. Hits a century and guides his team to victory.
September 3, 2008 - Leads England to a 4-0 victory over South Africa in the ODI series.





Stay tuned to this space to follow this fascinating battle

KP as captain
Matches: 9 | Won: 4 | Lost: 3 | NR: 2 | Win %: 57

KP - the batsman-captain
Matches: 9 | Runs: 237 | HS: 90* | Ave: 47.40

MSD as captain
Matches: 38 | Won: 21 | Lost: 14 | NR: 3 | Win %: 60

MSD - the batsman-captain
Matches: 38 | Runs: 1370 | HS: 109* | Ave: 52.69

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MS DHONI..i hate kevin pietersen
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again, a comparison thread..

im soo sick of all these comparisons
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then you should not post in a comparision thread.. as simple as that...
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Originally Posted by lovish View Post
then you should not post in a comparision thread.. as simple as that...
I will post whereever the heck I like to, you out of all the people here, are no one to tell me where I should or should not post..

now, continue on with your topic...
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i advised you bcoz u r sick of comparisons..... Its your choice though...
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how does this comparison even make sense?

KP has been the captain for less than 10 one day internationals, and only a few test matches, he has about 1-2 months of experience as captain..how can you judge someones ability in that short span of time?

I dont think you can compare both of them yet, you will need to give KP sometime
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Kevin Pietersen definitely, as a batsman he is way better than Dhoni. He just took over captaincy so cant say much about that but team has a big role to play in win-loss record as a captain. Pietersen has relatively a weak team.
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pietersen is a better batsman...dhoni so far is a good captain...

time will tell...
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Dhoni as a batsman has donr things pietersen cant even dream......
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Dhoni as a batsman has donr things pietersen cant even dream......
for example??? Dhoni has only one test hundred which came on the flattest track.....Pietersens batting helped England beat Australia in ashes.....he also scored 150 IN Australia...already has 14 test centuries in like 3 years while dhoni has just 1 ..averages higher than Dhoni in both forms.....what the hell r u talking about?? Dhoni is definitely the better captain but pietersen is the better batsman no doubt
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pieterson = dhoni


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pieterson > dhoni

simple as that.
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one day

pieterson = dhoni


test matches

pieterson > dhoni

simple as that.
I agree.
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As a batsman pieterson is way better but you cant compare on the captaincy yet... so far dhoni has proved he has been a great leader and you cant compare him with KP since he just started
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its very early to judge KP @ the moment he has just started.
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